Episode 020 · Fatherhood

Breaking Into His World: Josh Heerdt on Autism, Presence, and Loving a Son Without Words

Guest: Josh HeerdtThe SkilledDad Podcast

About This Episode

Zach sits down in the treehouse with Josh Heerdt — a 6'6" barbershop owner who took a fast track through life: Michigan to a ministry school in Redding, California, engaged three and a half months after the first date, a cross-country move to Tennessee, married eight months later, and a son born three weeks before their first anniversary. That son, now four, was diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder around a year and a half ago after his development began going backward at about ten months old — babbling, eye contact, and imitation all fading no matter how hard Josh tried to reach him. He's completely nonverbal, a relentless sensory seeker who jumps on the trampoline three to five hours a day, and — in Josh's words — quite possibly the happiest little dude in all the land, living in his own world 100% of the time. The whole episode orbits one mission: breaking into that world. Josh walks through the practical grind (eight therapy sessions a week at the peak, everything in the house anchored down, nights that start at 1:30 AM and don't stop), the emotional gut-punches (the pumpkin patch day the word "autism" was first spoken; his daughter saying "dada" first, sharpening the ache of a son who never has), and the marriage that the diagnosis rocked but turned toward each other instead of apart. The takeaway Josh lands on reframes every "be present" lesson the show has ever aired: presence is defined by your kid, not by you — and your only job is to get into their world on their terms.

What You'll Take Away

01

Presence is defined by your kid, not by you.

Josh's sharpest insight: we carry a preconceived picture of what "being present" means from our own childhood, but your kid gets to define it — and their definition can change daily. For his son, presence is grabbing hands, locking eyes, and jumping. For your kid, it's something else. Find out what.

02

Hard news should turn you toward each other, not apart.

The diagnosis rocked Josh's marriage — but instead of drawing apart, it forced the realization: "we can't do this alone." The day the word "autism" was first spoken, they scrapped their plans, drove to a pumpkin patch, took more pictures of their son than any day before, and cried. Together.

03

You've met one kid with autism.

Every child on the spectrum is completely individual — throw out prior knowledge, TV portrayals, and other people's stories. What works (deep-pressure squeezes, weighted blankets, get down at his level, eye contact) was found through trial and error with the therapists' guidance, not a manual.

04

Talk to him as if he understands — because someday it may click.

Josh and his wife narrate life to their nonverbal son as if he can respond, knowing they probably won't get a conversation back. That groundwork already produced one game-changer: he now responds to "stop" — the difference between safe and a knife on the counter.

05

Physically there isn't the same as present — even on the trampoline.

Josh catches himself ten minutes into jumping with his son, giggling and having fun, without having said a word — body present, mind at work. The fight for attention doesn't end when the phone goes away.

06

Engineer the break, don't just wish for one.

Josh hands his wife the barbershop keys so she can sit in the dark and write songs. And their first-ever trip away (five-year anniversary at Disney) worked because his wife was smart enough to pick somewhere busy — a beach would have been five days of sitting still, worrying about the kids — and backed it with a 30-plus-page handoff document for the grandparents.

He is in his own world 100% of the time. But it is the happiest world on the planet. And so me as a dad, my goal is just to break into that world.
— Josh Heerdt

Put It Into Practice

Figure out what presence means to each of your kids — on their terms, not yours. Watch what they pull you toward this week and follow it, even if it's just jumping.

If a family in your circle is walking through a diagnosis, ask real questions instead of assuming — and be the house where nothing is too precious for their kid to touch.

Hand your wife an exit this week: keys, a plan, and zero guilt. Not "let me know if you need a break" — put it on the calendar.

Narrate life to your youngest (or nonverbal) kid as if they understand everything. You're laying groundwork you can't see yet.

If you haven't had a night away with your wife since kids, start the handoff document now — the trip doesn't happen until the logistics do.

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