Episode 013 · Personal Development

Kickball Leagues and 2 AM Friends: PJ Simmons on Community, Patience, and Being Present

Guest: PJ SimmonsThe SkilledDad Podcast

About This Episode

Zach welcomes his friend and former colleague PJ Simmons to the treehouse studio — a dad of two girls with a third on the way, director of performance marketing at a digital agency, and a guy about to move his family from Franklin to Tampa to get closer to family support. The conversation is a masterclass in male friendship: how PJ's core group of five or six college friends has stayed tight for twelve years across four states through a running text thread, monthly "society room" Zoom debates, and a yearly trip. They dig into why workplace-only friendships are risky, what it means to be the "catalyst guy" in your group, and why PJ met his wife because he said yes to a kickball league. The dad talk is honest: PJ admits he thought he'd be a better father than he actually is, and unpacks the comparison trap of measuring yourself against an imaginary perfect dad. The episode lands on a line from one of PJ's best friends that cuts through every parenting book on the shelf: the only thing you actually have to do to be a great dad is be present.

What You'll Take Away

01

Real community can't be microwaved.

True relationships are a byproduct of time and proximity — college forces both, adulthood doesn't. If you want deep friendships after 30, you have to manufacture the time on purpose: text threads, standing calls, annual trips.

02

Every group needs a catalyst guy.

Someone rallies the troops or nobody does. Identify yours quickly and encourage him — or accept that the job is yours.

03

Diversify your friendship portfolio.

Work friendships can be real, but if your entire circle lives inside your workplace, one job change wipes out your community. Friendship shouldn't end at five o'clock — and it shouldn't depend on a paycheck continuing.

04

You're competing with yourself, not the perfect-dad picture.

PJ's trap wasn't comparing himself to other dads — it was comparing himself to his own imaginary "great father" standard and always coming up short. The goal isn't the picture; it's better than yesterday.

05

Build the patience rep before you think you need it.

PJ's advice to his pre-kid self: it's harder and more work than you can imagine — and the skill that pays off most is showing a little more patience than last time.

06

Presence beats optimization.

PJ was hunting for books and frameworks to "optimize" fatherhood when his best friend stopped him: you don't need new tactics. Just be there. Over-orchestrating the experience of being a great dad makes you miss it.

You can't go from zero to expert in a day.
— PJ Simmons

Put It Into Practice

Text your group thread today — and if you don't have one, start one with two or three guys this week.

Put a recurring "society room" call on the calendar: one evening a month, any format, non-negotiable.

Identify the catalyst guy in your group and tell him you appreciate it. If there isn't one, it's you now.

Audit your friendship portfolio: count how many close friends survive if you changed jobs tomorrow. If the answer is zero, invest outside the office this month.

Pick your most predictable trigger moment (bedtime stall, the 5pm chaos) and run one deliberate patience rep tonight: pause, breathe, respond a little better than last time.

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